{"id":9443,"date":"2017-11-27T17:13:41","date_gmt":"2017-11-27T23:13:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.717madisonplace.com\/?p=9443"},"modified":"2018-01-10T16:06:04","modified_gmt":"2018-01-10T22:06:04","slug":"fact-check-how-frequent-is-ptab-panel-expansion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.717madisonplace.com\/?p=9443","title":{"rendered":"Fact check: How frequent is PTAB panel expansion?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In today&#8217;s oral argument of <em>Oil States<\/em>, there was an exchange where the government&#8217;s representative was asked how frequently panels are enlarged by the Board. The answer given is shown below (with a chunk omitted for brevity):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>15\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS:\u00a0 Does it<\/p>\n<p>16\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 comport to due process to change the<\/p>\n<p>17\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 composition of the adjudicatory body halfway<\/p>\n<p>18\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 through the proceeding?<\/p>\n<p>19\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 MR. STEWART:\u00a0 This has been done on<\/p>\n<p>20\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 three occasions.\u00a0 It&#8217;s been done at the<\/p>\n<p>21\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 institution stage.<\/p>\n<p>22\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS:\u00a0 So I&#8217;ll<\/p>\n<p>23\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 rephrase the question.\u00a0 Was it illegal under<\/p>\n<p>24\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 those three occasions?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>11 \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0MR. STEWART:\u00a0 I &#8212; I don&#8217;t know how<\/p>\n<p>12\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 the institution decisions came out.\u00a0 This has<\/p>\n<p>13\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 not been done at the merits stage, if you will,<\/p>\n<p>14\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 when patentability was actually being &#8212; being<\/p>\n<p>15\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 determined.\u00a0 But our primary point would be<\/p>\n<p>16\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 that if there&#8217;s a constitutional flaw in that<\/p>\n<p>17\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 procedure, then a person who is actually harmed<\/p>\n<p>18\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 by its use in a particular case -\u00ad<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>You can view the whole exchange in the transcript at pages 45-47 [<a href=\"http:\/\/www.717madisonplace.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/16-712_879d.pdf\">here<\/a>].<\/p>\n<p>I came away from reading that exchange thinking that the government was saying that the PTO has only expanded IPR\/CBM panels three times. \u00a0If that was the intended message to the Court, then I think the government needs to double-check its figures. \u00a0By the Chief Judge of the PTAB&#8217;s own slide presentation to PPAC on November 9, 2017 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.uspto.gov\/sites\/default\/files\/documents\/20171109_PPAC_PTAB_Update.pdf\">[Link],<\/a> there have been four expanded panels in 2017 alone. \u00a0Also, those do not include the expanded panels in <del><span style=\"color: #ff6600;\">IPR2013-00219 (Yissum),<\/span><\/del> IPR2014-00508 (Target), IPR2014-00319 (Apple), and IPR2015-00762 (Zhongshan). \u00a0If four expanded panels were used in 2017 alone, it appears that the PTO is using expanded panels with increasing frequency.<\/p>\n<p>Moreover, the substantive use of an expanded panel in <em>Ex parte\u00a0Alappat<\/em> cannot be overlooked. \u00a0Granted, <em>Alappat<\/em> was pre-IPR days. \u00a0However, the PTO showed in <em>Alappat<\/em> that it is certainly willing to use an expanded panel for a substantive issue rather than just procedural issues. \u00a0For more on <em>Alappat<\/em>, see the Federal Circuit&#8217;s en banc opinion, particularly Judge Mayer&#8217;s (and Judge Michel&#8217;s) dissent,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/scholar.google.com\/scholar_case?q=in+re+alappat&amp;hl=en&amp;as_sdt=4,131&amp;case=457196026823961395&amp;scilh=0\">[here].<\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>Ex parte Alappat<\/em> was recounted in rather dramatic fashion in this FICPI publication <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ficpi.org\/_\/uploads\/2134\/historic-event-5th-open-forum-monte-carlo-1999.pdf\">[Link]<\/a>\u00a0 at pages 98-99, where it was noted that the original three-member Board panel was expanded by adding the Commissioner of the USPTO, &#8220;Deputy Commissioner Comer (a person with no patent background or expertise), Assistant Commissioner Samuels (a trademark expert with no patent background) as well as the Chair and Vice-Chair of the Board.&#8221; \u00a0The original three-member panel was subsequently out-voted 5-3.<\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"text-decoration: underline; color: #ff0000;\">UPDATE 12\/21\/17<\/span>:<\/em><\/p>\n<p>A further expanded panel was used in IPR2017-01186 on December 19, 2017. \u00a0The Chief Judge of the Board, acting under authority delegated by the Director, expanded a three judge panel by adding himself, the Deputy Chief Judge of the PTAB, and two Vice Chief Judges. \u00a0The issue dealt with was the constitutional issue of sovereign immunity: \u00a0[<a href=\"http:\/\/www.717madisonplace.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/ptab-sovereign-immunity-order-717MadisonPlace-1.pdf\">ERICSSON INC. and TELFONAKTIEBOLAGET LM ERICSSON\u00a0v.\u00a0REGENTS OF THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA<\/a>].<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In today&#8217;s oral argument of Oil States, there was an exchange where the government&#8217;s representative was asked how frequently panels are enlarged by the Board. 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